Herbert James SYMONS ¹

  General Notes:

Married twice
Had 6 sons and was a church organist according to a family member. There is no indication yet that he had more than 3 children (2 sons and a daughter) unless the others died as infants.

He either went to Victoria, B.C. with James Butterfield and his wife Mary Louisa Symons in 1907 or arrived shortly after. In 1914 he went to Los Angeles, California

Births Mar 1870
Symons Herbert James Ulverstone 8c 703

Marriages Dec 1893 Clitheroe 8e 497
Dobson John William
Smith Sarah Jane
Symons Herbert James
Winter Elizabeth Alice

Marriage on Lancashire OPC web site
Marriage: 1 Nov 1893 St Mary and All Saints, Whalley, Lancashire, England
Herbert James Symons - 23 Joiner Bachelor of Whalley
Elizabeth Alice Winter - 23 Spinster of Whalley
Groom's Father: William Henry Symons, Railway Inspector
Bride's Father: Isaac Winter, Gardener
Witness: Geoffrey Symons; Ellen Withers
Married by Banns by: Charles C Prichard, Vicar
Register: Marriages 1880 - 1900, Page 91, Entry 181
Source: LDS Film 1471150

Marriages Jun 1899 Barrow F. 8e 1590
Sharpe Polly Agnes A
Symons Herbert James

1871 census
RG10/4238 F40 P18 & F41 P19
Private House, Lower Holker, Flookburgh, Lancashire
Grace Baker Simons(sic), Head, Widow, 42, House houlder, Devonshire Burrington
Elizabeth Ann Simons, Daugh, Un, 14, Scholar, Surrey Lambeth
Helena Simons, Daugh, , 13, Scholar, Surrey Southwark
Mary Louisa Simons, Daugh, , 7, Scholar, Lancashire Flookburgh
Grace Eda Simons, Daughht, , 6, Scholar, Lancashire Flookburgh
George Frederick Simons, Son, , 4, Scholar, Lancashire Flookburgh
Herbert James Simons, Son, , 1, , Lancashire Flookburgh

1881 census
John SYMONS Assistant U Male 19 Shuiton, Shropshire, England Pupil Teacher
George F. SYMONS Scholar Male 14 Flookburgh, Lancashire, England
Herbert J. SYMONS Scholar Male 11 Flookburgh, Lancashire, England
Source Information:
Dwelling Ripley Hospital
Census Place Lancaster, Lancashire, England
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4265 / 60
Page Number 2
They are actually on different page numbers. I presume that P2 refers to the first page of the school/hospital
This is the same place that William Henry and John were in 1871, run by the same people

1891 census
RG12/3478 F97 P3
38 Cleator Street, Dalton, Ulvertone, Lancs
Herbert Jas Symons, Boarder, S, 21, Joiner, Lancashire Flookburgh (Holker Lower)
with family of George and Dinah Holden

1901 census
RG13/4010 F61 P2
64 Smeaton Street, Barrow in Furness, Lancs
Herbert James Symons, Head, M, 31, Ship General Joiner, born Lancs Holker
Pollie Agnes Ashburner Symons, Wife, M, 31, , born Cumberland Millom
Helena Symons, Daur, S, 5, , born Lancs Whalley
Frederic Claude Symons, Son, S, 10months, , Lancs Barrow

1911 Canada Census
1785 Davis Street, Victoria, British Columbia
District 13, Sub Dist 11, Page 10
All Canadian nationals and Anglican
Symons Herbert J, M, Head, M, Jan 1870, 41, England, 1907, Carpenter
do Polly A, F, Wife, M, Dec 1869, 42, England, 1907, none
do Frederick C, M, Son, S, May 1900, England, 11, 1907, none
do Horace, M, Son, S, June 1904, 7, England, 1907, none
do Frank, M, Son, S, May 1905, 6, England, 1907, none
do Roland, M, Son, S, Apr 1909, 2, BC, , none

1920 census (indexed as Simons)
Los Angeles Assembly District 71, Los Angeles, California
Symons Herbert J, Lodger, M, 50, Married, naturalised 1920, born England, parents born England, Joiner (in a shipyard)

1930 Census
Los Angeles, California
Symons Herbert J, Head, M, 61, M (at 31), born England, parents born England, Carpenter
do Polly A, Wife-H, F, 60, M (at 30), born England, parents born England, none
do Roland, Son, M, 20, S, born Canada, parents born England, Clerk
They had becomes citizens of USA in 1920

lived at Aguilar St, Glendale or Los Angeles ?; on 3 levels

close to Forest Lawn Cemetary

  Noted events in his life were:

• Occupation: cabinet maker in the UK; saw flier in the US.

Herbert married Elizabeth Alice WINTER on 1 Nov 1893 in Whalley, Lancashire, England. (Elizabeth Alice WINTER was born circa 1870 and died Jun Q 1898 in Barrow In Furness, Lancashire, England.)

Herbert next married Pollie Agnes Ashburner SHARPE, daughter of Ashburner SHARPE and Sarah ASHBURNER, circa Jun 1899 in Barrow In Furness, Lancashire, England. (Pollie Agnes Ashburner SHARPE was born on 26 Dec 1869 in Millom, Cumberland, England and died on 27 Jul 1949 in Los Angeles, California, USA.)