Thomas William ABELL

   Another name for Thomas was Thomas ABELL.

  General Notes:

Information from marriage of daughter Elizabeth to Humphrey Potter - name given as Thomas ABEL - deceased. But on marriage certificate of Elizabeth to George Loader the name was William Abell (see notes for Elizabeth as the first names were probably transposed). "E Abell" was a witness. Likely to be mother, so Thomas probably already died.
Different names were quoted for Elizabeth's father on each marriage
-William Abell (to George Loader)
-Thomas William Abel (to Anthony Watts)
-Thomas Abel (to Humphrey Potter)
-Thomas Abell (to William Marshall)
It is likely that the "Thomas William" was correct, since have now found parents and siblings on 1841 census and the father is William. They are living in the same street as Humphrey Potter.
Their first son (father William) was called Thomas William
The father of Sophia and Joseph Abell at their baptisms was stated as William Abell
The father of Elizabeth and Sarah Abell at their baptisms was stated as Thomas Abell
The death of Thomas Abell in 1839 gave his father as Thomas and his address as Glasshouse Street - the same as the family of William Abell found on the 1841 census
- The Thomas Abell buried at St Botolph, Aldgate in 1848 lived at Glasshouse Yard, East Smithfield. This is presumably the William Abell on the 1841 census

On FreeBMD, only possible deaths were
Deaths Sep 1839 Abell Thomas Whitechapel 2 397 - no, this was an infant. But likely to be their son
Deaths Dec 1841 ABEL Thomas Bermondsey 4 15
Deaths Dec 1842 Abell Thomas Bloomsbury 1 43
Deaths Mar 1847 Abell Thomas St Olave 4 438
Deaths Dec 1847 Abell Thomas Bethnal Gn 2 65
Deaths Sep 1848 ABELL Thomas Whitechapel 2 443 ** probable
Deaths Jun 1850 ABEL Thomas Holborn 2 85
- 1848 death fits with remarriage of his wife in 1849

** here is the burial
city of london burials - details from Ancestry.co.uk
Last name: ABELL
First name(s): Thomas
Date of burial: 27 August 1848
Place of burial: St Botolph, Aldgate
Age at death: 49
Approximate year of birth: 1799
Address at death: Glasshouse Yard, East Smithfield
- confirmed from register

Death certificate
Registered in the Aldgate sub-district of Whitechapel
Died on Twentysecond August 1848 at 15 Glasshouse Street, Whitechapel
Thomas Abell, Male, 49 years, Labourer.
Registered by Elizabeth Abell, present at the death, of 15 Glass House Street Whitechapel, on Twenty fourth August 1848

1841 census
HO107/716/14 F5 P2
Glass House Street, Whitechapel (St Mary), Tower Hamlets
William Abell, 40, Lab, Y
Elizabeth do, 39, , Y
Joseph do, 9, , Y
Sophire do, 6, , Y
Sarah do, 1, , Y
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Robert Dunn, 34, Lab, Y
Sarah do, 35, , Y
- nb Humphrey Potter (future son in law) is on the previous page (F4 P1)
- Glasshouse Street is recorded as "Whites Yard or Glass House Street". In location of what is now John Fisher Street
- what is the connection with Robert Dunn? He was a witness to Elizabeth's second marriage

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THOMAS ABELL
Male Family


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Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZABETH GREEN Family
Marriage: 11 FEB 1821 Saint Mary Magdalene, Bermondsey, London, England



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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

M001581 1548 - 1609 0097133 IT 2 Film 883914 Film

M001581 1801 - 1814 0254552 Film NONE

M001581 1815 - 1820 0254553 Film NONE

M001581 1821 - 1824 0254554 Film NONE

M001581 1825 - 1830 0254555 Film NONE

M001581 1831 - 1835 0254556 Film NONE

M001581 1836 - 1839 0254557 Film NONE

M001581 1840 - 1841 0254558 Film NONE

Pallots Marriage Index
Name: Thos Abell b Spouse: Green Elth s Comment: 246 Marriage Date: 1821 Parish: Bermondeby
Name: Elizth Green s Spouse: Thos Abell b Comment: 246 Marriage Date: 1821 Parish: Bermondsey Surrey

Pallots Baptism Index
Name: Thos Abell Baptism Date: 1787 Parents: Matt and Eliz Parish: St. Andrew Holborn County: London

Searches on the IGI
There is a baptism at St Mary, Whitechapel on 29 Dec1805 of Mary Ann Abell, daughter of Michael and Ann. Could this be his younger sister and that previous children were baptised elsewhere, before they moved to Whitechapel.
There is also a Thomas Abel, son of Michael and Ann who was born 14 Feb 1811 and baptised 6 Mar 1811 at St Mary Magdalene, Bermondsey - where William got married.
Also, there was a Michael Abel born 6 Feb 1803 and baptised 28 Feb 1803 at St Luke, Old Street, Finsbury - same parents
Michael Abel married Ann Kinder at St Leonards, Shoreditch on 27 Sep 1801. Just possible!
In case William/Thomas was born before the marriage, there were two baptisms at the Foundling Hospital C of E, St Pancras of Thomas Kinder - one on 2 Mar 1798 and the other on 2 Jun 1799. No parent was named. Records are at the London Metropolitan Archives

No Abel(l) baptisms at St Mary Whitechapel in 1799 or 1800. There was a marriage there on 18 Feb 1799 of Edward Abel and Sarah Porter

1841 census for Michael Abel and his son Thomas
HO107/1047/4 F16 P24
Baalzephon Street, Bermondsey, London
Michael Abel, 60, Leather Dresser, N
Ann do, 65, , N
Charlotte do, 11, , Y
HO107/1047/4 F20 P33
Baalzephon Street, Bermondsey, London
Thomas Abel, 30, Stereotype Founder, Y
Martha do, 20, , N
Thomas do, 6, , Y
Henry do, 3, , Y
Frederic do, 1, , Y
(Thomas snr died 22-Nov-1841)

Possible baptism?
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WM. ABEL
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 13 FEB 1796

Christening: 06 MAR 1796 Saint George In The East, Stepney, London, England

Death:
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Parents:
Father: WM. ABEL Family
Mother: ELIZTH.


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C055782 1779 - 1794 0578788 Film 6902328 Film

C055782 1794 - 1804 0578789 Film NONE

C055782 1805 - 1810 0578790 Film NONE


Sheet: 00

  Noted events in his life were:

• Occupation: Labourer, 6 Jan 1846, Poplar, Middlesex, England.

Thomas married Elizabeth GREEN, daughter of Edward GREEN and Elizabeth, on 11 Feb 1821 in Bermondsey, London, England. (Elizabeth GREEN was born on 24 Feb 1804 in Lewes, Sussex, England and was baptised on 1 Apr 1804 in Lewes, Sussex, England.)