Ann or Elizabeth

  General Notes:

Searching for the baptism of John Thorn(e) in South Molton produced three likely entries.
20 April 1800 John, son of William Thorne and Ann his wife (Ann was Ann Kingdon mar 6 Apr 1792)
4 May 1800 John, son of William Thorne and Elizabeth his wife (Elizabeth was Elizabeth Crocker, mar 26 Mar 1799, probably baptised 11 March 1781 in South Molton)
10 August John, son of Grace Thorne (base child)

I tried to estimate which it might be by relationship to the names of John's daughters - the first was Elizabeth Ann, so not very helpful. Hence, either of these could have been "our" John
William and Ann had the following other children :- Ann(1 Apr 1793), William(1795-listed in 1797 as privately baptised 14 Feb 1795 and received into church 26 Feb 1797), Ann Philips(26 Nov 1797), James(8 Jul 1804)
There are no other children recorded for William and Elizabeth.
(there is a burial of an Ann Thorne 30 Nov 1836, aged 44 at South Molton - is this the 1793 baptism?)
There is no occurrence of the name Grace in future generations, so can probably ignore that entry

There is an MI at South Molton that might help to eliminate one of the two John's baptised in 1800
P21 Y42 Ann Thorne opposite this stone lies ANN the affectionate wife of W. M. Thorne who departed this life 26th April 1826 aged 39 years and her darling son John aged 7months.
- with no date for John's death and the fact that Ann would have only been 13 in 1800 make this only a vague possibility
- burial of Ann was 2 May 1826, aged 38 not 39
- W. M Thorne is likely to be William Mules Thorne who remarried in 1834
- However, there is a burial on 28 Oct 1800 of a John Thorne. This could be the son of William/Ann as the age would be about right. But other entries state "an infant" for young children.
There is a burial on 22 Sep 1822 of an Ann Thorne

One other possible clue was that there is an 1843 burial in Filleigh (on the Genuki Devon/Filleigh web site) of an Elizabeth Thorne - the only Thorne burial in the 1838-1899 register.
page 26, Elizabeth THORNE Filleigh Feb 2 1843 65, approx birth = 1778
As John twice listed his place of birth as Filleigh on censuses is this the clue as to which of the two 1800 baptisms was him. i.e. is this his mother?
Death reference
Deaths Mar 1843 THORNE Elizabeth South Molton 10 149
- incorrect as death certificate states she was the wife of Thomas Thorne, farmer. Thomas and Elizabeth Thorne are on the 1841 census at Farthing Lake, Filleigh

In 1841 Elizabeth Thorne, 60, Pauper, is living in East Street, South Molton
In 1851 Elizabeth Thorne (indexed as Thome), 72, Pauper Woollen Weaver, is living in East Street, South Molton. grandaughter Mary Ann age 15 is also there - both born South Molton
Mary Ann was the daughter of Mary Thorne and baptised at South Molton on 17 Apr 1836

There is this burial at South Molton
20 May 1834 Elizabeth THORNE of East Street Age 76
-maybe a little old to be mother of John

In Pigots directory of 1822/23 (on Genuki) there is an entry :
Thorne W, linen and woolen draper - East Street

2 possible deaths
Deaths Dec 1857 Thorne Elizabeth S Molton 5b 304 (buried South Molton 13 Dec aged 78)
Deaths Mar 1859 Thorne Elizabeth S. Molton 5b 358 (no - born 1798)

Is this Elizabeth's baptism?
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ELIZABETH CROCKER Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 11 MAR 1781 South Molton, Devon, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JOHN CROCKER Family
Mother: MARY


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
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C052021 1601 - 1812 0917529 Film 0933372 Film


Sheet: 00

Ann married William THORNE.